This is long but worth a read.

This is long but worth a read.

Reshared post from +Joshua Becker

“Money only exists if two or more people believe it exists.” – Daniel Suelo

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The Man Who Quit Money: An Interview with Daniel Suelo | Becoming Minimalist
Daniel lives entirely without money and has done so for the past 12 years. In 2000, he put his entire life savings in a phone booth, walked away, and has lived moneyless ever since. Most frequently, h…

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  1. Hehe – I understand, Jens – sometimes less planned than hoped!

    Living with less is awesome and although I don't plan to live as lean as that man has, I hope to get to a place where I don't feel I need an attachment to any thing, you know?

    Thanks for checking it out!

  2. Well, before pointing out the flaws, I have to say I agree with most of what he says. I have cut my needs back to a level that few would find comfortable.

    But neither he nor I could do so without a society that uses a system of reference for work done (money) and a way to accumulate and inspire technological progress (possessions). The photo of him wearing a hat and glasses makes that point. We would both probably die in a true possessionless, moneyless society.

    It's true that we don't need the levels of consumption that we now have, nor the levels of acquisition. But those levels led to the computer and internet upon which we are discussing the issue, so it's hard to say we aren't better for it. 

  3. Thanks for reading and commenting +Bill DeWitt – I love contemplating further on these things!

    Here's what I think: Before money, there was trade – I could trade my services for your goods, etc. (I trade my energy for your energy.) I agree money is an easier system for keeping track of that sort of thing.

    Where our system gets corrupt and fails is when people make money( potential energy) out of thin air like banks do. To always be in a position of debtor or creditor is not a healthy way of living – it should be like breathing is for everyone – in and out not constantly in or constantly out, or you basically have a slave system.

    Because the man in the story is an anomaly to our system, he has some unfair advantages we may not have if society as a whole were to be operating that way. He very well could have traded his time working on someone's land, tending a mutual garden to help get some food and his prefab clothing and glasses. He certainly has an unfair advantage of having his trade circles being much greater because others have access to money.

    I think some people are dipping out of the money scene – I certainly am for gifts for my close family who I love dearly. It means so much to give less but with more of my time involved (my most precious asset), and my gifts to family range from my time helping them with a project, making something of use for them and even high tech offerings. (I gave a website domain and hosting as a gift to a family member – where hosting and my time doing website design does not cost me anything but my time and the domain name cost is very minimal.) Once again, that is a hybrid system – there's no way I could give that to her if I didn't already pay a big sum to host my client's sites, and she couldn't have gotten a domain name if I didn't pay for it and the taxes associated with it.

    In any case, I certainly don't plan on having nothing and living without using money. I'm not a very good hunter (I hate to kill things) and enjoy foods that aren't carrion. I love this article it is aligned with my values of what is most important in my life and it isn't "things" that money can buy 🙂

  4. +Joseph Kane – he may not wish to use antibiotics. Who knows! Antibiotics are overused and unfortunately becoming less and less effective the more they're used. Some people I know already choose not to subscribe to being treated with antibiotics.

  5. +Bill DeWitt – I think we are similar in reducing our consumption and carbon footprint and hope you know I appreciate connecting with you, I always appreciate people who I can learn from and grow – and you are in that group! I think I went off on a rant up there ^, preaching to the choir, hehe! Forgive me.

  6. Sure, you're fine +Jean Egan

    I've simplified my life from more of a philosophical viewpoint than an ecological one, but the result is about the same. At my age I am more about consolidating my life than growing a family or building a career. This allows me to simplify in ways that many others may not be able to do.

    But I still have to realize that our society, with all the advantages we do have, is only possible because of those who are still running on the wheel. IOW, I'm completely in favor of me simplifying my life, as long as those other people still keep making advanced electronics, shipping in the organic foods I like, and producing enough goods and services to keep my neighbors from turning cannibal.

  7. Thanks for understanding and what you say makes sense to me! My husband and I are in the same situation. We chose not to have children and even though we're still at work at the grist-mill, we're not working ourselves to the bone to support children or feel a need to get the "better things in life" because, well… they're not worth killing ourselves over 🙂

    Like you, we're simplifying and enjoying the ride more. Nice to learn more about you, Bill.

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